1986-10-18 Record-Mirror - The Dynamite Mix, page 54
THE DYNAMITE MIX
"No ballads, no funny chord changes... and it's gotta get you going"
After a highly acclaimed debut album and the restoration of rock 'n' roll chic, BAD are coming back for their second helping. It's time to crank up the guitar, get in the ring with Joe Strummer and get hard!
Story: Stuart Bailie
Audio visual: Joe Shutter
When Big Audio Dynamite promised to take us to Part Two, nobody thought it was was going to be like this. We anticipated some up-market sophistication perhaps, or maybe some clever dancefloor stylings, but we were all way off the the mark. For our starter, 'C'mon Every Beatbox', is more like a space-age, rockabilly sort of a groove, a 'call to party' on the urban tribes. It's shot through with bum notes, and it's rowdy as hell.
During the video shoot, Mick Jones points to the tape of the new BAD album, um, and urges me to stick it in the Walkman. "Go on, strap yourself in, and enjoy the ride!"
A perplexing half hour later, and Don Letts singles me out with mock horror. "Oh no! He's sitting down! You've just disproved my theory... I said it would be impossible to listen to it without standing up!"
The new BAD recordings might throw a few preconceptions up in the air, but that's not to say that they've done anything wrong. We've still got that cosmopolitan mixture of musical styles, but this time they're executed with a great deal more confidence and enthusiasm. More dramatic than that though, is that Mick Jones has taken to stepping out once again in the role of Guitar Hero. He knows that he's going to cause a lot of bewildered reactions across the board, but the idea just makes him laugh the more.
"There's no two ways about it, we've got rock and roll guitar now. For a while, I didn't know if I wanted to play guitar, but I've since found out that people like that. I found out that I was pretty good at it as well, I could express myself with it."
So have you ditched the guitar synthesiser?
"It looks like a dalek's handbag, doesn't it? I don't use it so much, I think it's a load of old cobblers to be honest. I'd much prefer this," (he pats his trusty Gibson) "This one's a 1952, you know. That's older than me. I'm just bringing it back to life great that it's still alive?" isn't it
What about the echoes of Eddie Cochran in 'Beatbox'? Was that accidental?
"It was accidental, I wasn't trying to rip anybody off. But then... Actually, if we're really gonna pin it down, I would say it was Huey Piano Smith's 'Rockin' Pneumonia And The Boogie Pneumonia Woogie Flu'. That came out before 'Summertime Blues'; one is by a dead bloke, and the other is by an alive bloke. So if Eddie Cochran comes looking for me through his live lawyers, I would refer them to Huey Piano Smith.
"But what can you do about that stuff, you can't really write anything new anyway. I didn't say I was gonna do an Eddie Cochran song, that was just the way it worked out, you know?"
There's quite a few rough edges on the new stuff, isn't there?
"Yeah, we like it to be rough and ready, it takes all the bollocks out of it if it's too polished, I think. We feel it's a step in the right direction, no matter what it is. We've definitely tried to make a harder record this time. I think that every time a group makes one LP... You know when you used to get a Beatles record, and every time you'd be excited 'cause it was gonna be different to the last one? That's kinda what we're doing. It was gonna be a quickie one day recording and one day mixing but we did go a little over budget on that."
So have you been listening to a lot of rock and roll records lately, or did that just come naturally?
"Well, not really. I just listened to a lot of other people's records, and I realised there weren't none. I got really hip to it around the time of the Anti-Apartheid concert. I saw all the other acts, and I enjoyed them, but I realised that out of a whole mass of acts, there wasn't a single rock and roll band.
"So when the MC asked me how we wanted to be introduced, I got him to say that we were the rock and roll part of the evening. And something about that clicked, you know? Then I knew what I was doing, which, funnily enough, was what I've always done best I guess it's a natural thing."
Now that Big Audio Dynamite have been out of the wrapper for a year, it is easier to appreciate the general shape of things. They were never revolutionary, nor did they claim to be, but BAD had the style and a musical freshness that set them apart even in those early, shaky, gigs. The band's brief remains the same, no ballads, no funny chord changes, and it's gotta get you going, and it's an approach that has already won a lot of people over. Mick appreciates this recognition, yet he retains a fair degree of caution.
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"Obviously, I like all that stuff, as obviously, was difficult for me to show that I could do something by myself. But I don't like to start having the situation where I have to live up to things. I want to keep it really low key, not to try and become all big-headed and that. 'Cause that will ruin it."
And to his credit, he is honest enough to recognise that the emergent BAD did have its fair share of shortcomings.
"Definitely. And we were trying to work on them. One of them was singing, and I'm more happy singing now, it's that thing about confidence again. The musicianship has improved too: I started off with a band saying that that doesn't matter, but it turns out we've made a musically proficient record as well. I was really happy to see everyone in the group develop. Life will be hectic from now on, won't it?"
"And it's gonna be like this until Christmas time. I've been away for a few months, and since I come back, I'm not even sure of the language. It's a little hard to get back into it. I was sitting in my front room the day I got back, and everyone was rushing around and talking really fast, and it was like I was witness to a bonfire, everyone coming in and chucking more stuff on."
"And I thought, I'm gonna chill out for a while, I'm gonna stay calm and take it as it comes."
But with the band's activities stepping up, isn't there a danger of getting caught up on the music business treadmill?
"I'm so finicky and particular about every detail of it that at the moment, that's not likely to happen. We're quite disciplined. It could happen when I've been completely bought over by millions," (he sniggers) "and I'm living in Buckingham Palace, and driving around in a pink Cadillac. But just 'cause I'm doing that, you won't believe that I've sold out, will you? I'll just be the same old bloke, won't I?"
It's going on 10 years since Mick Jones and Joe Strummer came together in The Clash on an inspired partnership that produced some truly brilliant moments. But then there was the bust-up and the bitching, which degenerated into a public slogging match with all the drama of a Taylor-Burton divorce case. Now there's been a reconciliation, and while things might never be quite the same again, there's still no-one out there to match these two in charisma and strokes.
Joe might not be recognised as a bona fide BAD member, but he's now officially 'on the team', co-writing half the songs on the album and taking the production credits alongside Mick. Doubtless, the new 'rockin'' mentality in the BAD camp must also be partly down to his influence, as is the new album title, 'No 10, Upping St.'—where the funky Prime Minister lives, as opposed to the "fked-up one".**
"That was Joe's idea. Right at the very last, we had a huge exhibition in the studio of 100 different titles, all made up to look like the record cover. Titles like 'Hose Pipe', which was a great favourite of mine, because to me, 'Hose Pipe' sums up rock and roll in two words. Don't you just think of washing machines?"
"What does Elvis do with a hose pipe?"
"He stuffs it down his trouser-leg."
"And what happens when he does that?"
"The girls scream, and you have rock and roll. We might call the next one that, actually."
"Another title was 'Hubcap'. What does that make you think of?"
"Yeah, cars... rock and roll. But we're thinking of giving that one to Bruce Springsteen."
According to Mick, the other BAD members have been only too willing to accommodate his wayward partner:
"Everyone was cool about it," he says, "there were no paranoias once they realised that Joe was a real cool guy. He slept under the piano, you know?"
Don Letts too, is unconditional in his praise:
"It was a buzz for me, it was very exciting. He's definitely the real McCoy."
And what exactly did Mick contribute towards Joe's solo single, 'Love Kills'?
"I did it, and then I didn't, if you know what I mean. I ended up mixing something that didn't get released, and there wasn't as much of my guitar on as what I'd done. It went abroad, and someone else got their hands on it."
"It didn't really turn out the way I thought it would, I thought it would have been better, but it's not for me to say, it's Joe's record. I know the next one's gonna be great, 'cause I'm gonna be involved from the start."
There was a recent quote in which Joe referred to the 'Radio 2 tendencies' in some of your songwriting.
"Well fk him if he said that,"** he laughs.
"No, you can't say that, you'll make us fall out again. You better just say that I listen to some radio, but I don't think it's Radio 2. It might be, I can't tell nowadays with a lot of the stuff you hear. Not my stuff though."
Joe seems to be taking to the film world these days. Have you ever seen yourself as a bit of an actor?
"Actually, I'm really disinclined about this film thing on the whole. Everyone's doing that, and I think it's hard enough to make a good record. You have to concentrate on that, and you have to be able to play live well. We aren't making a big deal with the video for 'Beatbox'. We did that with 'Medicine Show', and it didn't get shown."
So where's all this going to end?
"Well, I ain't going back to pushing a pen; being a clerical assistant. Even though I might have been quite a high-ranking one by now, there's none of that. And all these people that said that I should go back and work a petrol pump or whatever, they better come up with something before I'm going anywhere."
Chill out and turn around for a BAD front-to-back cover!















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