Interviewer: 00:00 What were you getting into when you signed on?

Joe Strummer: Signed on?

Interviewer: Did you sign on?

Joe Strummer: 00:08 No.

Pogues band member: [inaudible]

Joe Strummer: I knew what I was getting into, yeah.

Interviewer: See the world.

Joe Strummer: See the world. See the Pogues. See Spider.

Pogues band member: But never see bed.

Joe Strummer: No.

Interviewer: But a damn fine band.

Pogues band member: He has a clothesline in his room.

Pogues band member: 00:27 But he's a travel vet. He does all these things that I wouldn't even begin to think of. He washes his own socks and underpants.

Pogues band member: 00:36 I know, so do I.

Interviewer: 00:39 Do you?

Pogues band member: I don't.

Joe Strummer: 00:41 I just buy new ones.

Pogues band member: My bag is about 3….

Pogues band member: Why are we talking about underpants?

Pogues band member: 3,000 for when I get home and that's when I leave.

Interviewer: Okay, let's get serious. Okay, now. You have...

Pogues band member: I can't believe this.

Pogues band member: [inaudible]

Interviewer: Okay

Joe Strummer: Can we have a break where we have a sip of beer and then you can [inaudible]?

Interviewer: Course you can..

Pogues/Joe: [Laughing]

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Pogues band member: 00:53 I've been involved in folk music, playing folk music for quite a while. And folk music has been on a downward slant in a big way. And in general, as far as I was concerned for a few years, music was becoming obsolete. Because it was all studio work. There were no live bands. There were no bands who could actually play on a stage that you could go to see. Who could actually pick up a guitar, tune it and play it. It was all electronic gear. I think bands like The Pogues are giving people something that they want. That's why, that's one of the reasons we're popular, because, like, people go to our gigs and have a laugh.

Pogues band member: Yeah. It's that... It's just that sort of openness and directness. You know, I think people respond to that, don't they?

Pogues band member: 01:59 Yeah, yes, I think so

Interviewer: Would you say that that same openness and directness was what people first picked up on with U2?

Pogues band member: With U2?

Pogues band member: Perhaps, I don't know.

Pogues band member: Yeah, I think that's true. I mean they're very good at putting across you know putting themselves across as people and not just as …

Pogues band member: … we're nothing more than you see

Pogues band member: … and thats enough

Joe Strummer: yeah that's the best part about it

Pogues band member: .. the great thing about this band i think is like i think everybody in this band's got a really good feel for it's like you know when you're playing live but someone takes on a different sort of character from the way that you originally worked it out or recorded or whatever you know and everybody seems to sort of... Well, it doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes, you know, it's a horrendous mess [other Pogue laughs] But when it does work, I mean, people just kind of like sort of slot into the groove, man. Wow.

Joe Strummer: Hey, Spider. Back on that one.